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chris



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Who has a choice? Reply with quote

When a hand is complete who needs to show there hand, who shows first, and who has a choice?
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lork



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Posts: 7
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong, but I believe the bettor has to show first. If the bettor's hand wins, the other players who may have called the bet, I believe, have the opportunity to muck.
Experts, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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pritz



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 3
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True... the bettor or person first to act has to show first. The loser does not have to show their hand, BUT if the winner ask to see it... they have to show it before it reaches the mucked cards.
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chris



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pritz wrote:
True... the bettor or person first to act has to show first. The loser does not have to show their hand, BUT if the winner ask to see it... they have to show it before it reaches the mucked cards.


I wasn't aware of this rule, and I don't recall ever seeing it enforced. (not to imply you aren't correct!) Is it more of a gentlemen's agreement "I won't ask to see yours if you don't ask to see mine"?
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razor



Joined: 21 Dec 2005
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, can't anyone who has stayed into the hand until the showdown see anyone else's hand who is still in the pot?
An example would be if there were three people in a pot and player A and player C are raising and reraising each round until they are capped. When player A shows his winning hand player B can see player C's hand as well. This way if player C is in raising the entire hand with 2,7o it is obvious he is in collusion with player A. I saw two guys get kicked out of a casino and told not to come back for doing this.
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louis



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can request, though generally it is seen as an accusation of cheating and if it turns out to be a justified amount of betting then the "accuser" won't be too popular at the table.

It's more a gentlemans agreement, you can request but in general if someone mucks a hand it's not questioned and the game moves on.

I prefer it that way anyway, people can get information knowing what you will play with.
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